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  #31
Old 04-06-2008

oh why or why doesn't Patrick come back?? Oh yes, now I see.
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zoo pro dont u know anything. dont write posts like that which belittle the intelligence of other members because it offends them, whether u are drunk at the time or not is no excuse! God.
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and no im not drunk.
now can we get back to the elephants? does anyone have enough time to trawl back through media releases pre November 2006 and see how many experts, politicians and activists swore blind these elephants would never breed?
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I just know that, one of the organisations were RSPCA they had serious doubts about the elephants health and use for breeding, though they are in tip top shape, and three elephants have bred, Gung, Tong Dee and Dokkoon. Three out of eight is a great start, wonder how RSPCA is now reacting?
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The Humane Society and the Green Party were others, as was Lee Rhiannon of Sydney, what was the third organisation that took the zoos to court? It never could happen they all said, and when it did happen they all said that she was too younf and shouldn't have been allowed to happen. Now they really don't have a leg to stand on re Dokkoon. But have you noticed that is always seems to eb Taronga that cops the flack re these elephants?
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Yes, there was no protest at Melbourne when the elephants came, hmmm?
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recently the Berlin experts speculated that Thong Dee may actually be older than the 8 year figure she is thought to be.
this puts the zoo in an uncomfortable position. on the one hand, any criticism from opponents to the program and Thong Dee's age may be countered by this expert opinion, but on the other hand, as part of the import protocol the zoos did need to prove with authentic documents that the elephants were born into captivity and that their age etc could be reliably proven...the Berlin assertion makes the rego system seem invalid.
either way, Thong Dee, at the risk of humanising an animal, is surely happier at Taronga living this life then she would have been on the streets of Bangkok. and she certainly is happy enough to breed.
But I thought Id just throw that in as a point of interest.
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Andy, elephant semen can be frozen, but the techniques for thawing it out, and having it still be viable are still a long way from perfect. It is generally accepted that only fresh (not frozen) elephant semen is used for AI.
I will re-check what the current procedure at IZW with successful AI is.
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About what Glyn said, didn't they also do a dental check on Tong Dee? Or am i wrong.
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  #39
Old 07-06-2008

I hope now it looks like Tarongas Elephant family is expected to grow that they will start expanding the exhibit area with a bit more in size
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Old 07-06-2008

Too late now of course, and easy for me to be wise after the event, but I reckon the whole new elephant complex should have been constructed adjacent to the old one. There is plenty of room down along the lawn where they hold the outdoor concerts.

Of course, that wasn't the area planned for wild Asia. (Proves to me once again that zoogeographical layout is not always practical.)
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Too late now of course, and easy for me to be wise after the event, but I reckon the whole new elephant complex should have been constructed adjacent to the old one.
I agree the two elephant exhibits should be closer together for convienece,
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Old 28-08-2008

well its now been anounced that Pontipp is also pregnant though AI to Melbournes male.

this means that by the end of 2009 - early 2010 there will be 6 elephants in that dare i say it quite small exhibit. thats a lot of elephants!
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That's excellent news, the keepers at Melbourne though say apparently the exhibit was designed to house 5 adult elephants and some calves, and isn't Gung's new exhibit underway?
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That's excellent news, the keepers at Melbourne though say apparently the exhibit was designed to house 5 adult elephants and some calves, and isn't Gung's new exhibit underway?
6 elephants is minus gung. the total overall at the zoo will be 7 elephants
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I guess it is a temporaly a clause for room, any chances of expansion?
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