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Old 19-05-2007

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. you guys need a state run zoo
Too right we do!!
Reading the article about the pandsa, one of the things I was interested in is that it wasn't just pandas, but an entire chinese experience with Gardens etc. Sydney has a wonderful Chinese Garden at Darling Harvour and it would be great to have a similar one here.
Perhaps we Queensland members get a bit touchy because we have a multitude of not quite zoos, tiny private places that just don't go anywhere and a history of big noters.
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Old 20-05-2007

Just can't agree more with ZooPro. Sensible words nit-picker
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Old 20-05-2007

when i read the first post in this thread i thought it was a joke!

and it is really - golden monkeys and pandas in a private native wildlife park on the goldcoast?

yeah, i'll visit them and then see the sumatran rhino at australia zoo!!
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Old 20-05-2007

I think it is fine as long as they are not paying the Chinese millions in the deal. (probobly are) It will atract crowds and get the zoo publicity. I hope if they are just a loan that the Australian animals sent to China are also just a loan.
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Old 20-05-2007

hopefully, they (being the billionaires etc) pay for it all, in association with the aust govt, so currumbin pay minimal (food, staff), so they can make a profit from it, not a loss
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Old 21-05-2007

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hopefully, they (being the billionaires etc) pay for it all, in association with the aust govt, so currumbin pay minimal (food, staff), so they can make a profit from it, not a loss
WHY? currumbin is a private business? why the %$@# should the australian government (and thus every one of us that pays rediculous amounts of tax) pay for a private enterprise.

and anyway if currumbin, a native animal park, is going down the gurgler - i hardly think investing in the most expensive, over-promoted, exaggerated money producer in all the zoo world is going to help...
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Old 21-05-2007

the US panda loan scheme is currently worth over $80 million per annum, a figure american zoos cannot even recoup. as zoo atlanta puts it, one panda costs 5 times as much as an elephant to maintain. and those costs are prohibitive
the more i learn, the more i just think the whole thing is hilarious.
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Old 21-05-2007

absolutely - in the midst of some of the big american zoo trying to re-negotiate their loans (memphis, national, atlanta and san diego zoos), some pissy private native animal park on the gold coast reckon they can do it better...

what a joke. i wonder how the irwins are going at acquiring those sumatran rhino? do you think andalas will be sent to australia zoo?
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Old 21-05-2007

you are joking arent you pat about andalas going to australia zoo?
and on another note, if they did come, why display pandas in a chinese garden immersion experience. thai village for elephants fine, but come on. pandas are from the mountains,not backyards in beijing!
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Old 21-05-2007

glyn and patrick - don't you think you are nit-picking just a bit too much here?
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Old 21-05-2007

probably, but i dont give a **** about the state of origin, so this is the next best thing

and golden monkeys! blah
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Old 21-05-2007

i'm a born nit-picker zoopro!
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Old 21-05-2007

papyrus in asian elephant village. that got me, lol.
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Old 21-05-2007

oh glyn, please don't get me started on botanical authenticity!!
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  #30
Old 21-05-2007

just think about the irwins and getting sumatran rhinos

very powerful ppl in the wildlife world, if they wanted something, they would get it. and think about the cash they would give to a place such as way kembas (?) if they happened to aquire some rhino and send to australia.

as more my statement on govt paying, no they shouldnt, but, yes but, for the austrlian govt to go into such an exchange of national emblems with china, would be more of a political move to form a tiend sign agreements, the animals would be barginning tools. so no they shouldnt but mr howard to get in chinas goodbooks would pay for it!
 


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