Indian rhinos in Europe

Pertinax · 12-02-2008, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CZJimmy

Is this Yodha?

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Looks like Yodha to me.. if you look very hard you can almost see the sex.... Also he/it has a relatively straight back- usually typical of a bull. The one in the background has a more dipped back- often sign of a cow- so that's most likely 'Narayani.'

jelle · 12-02-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pertinax

Looks like Yodha to me.. if you look very hard you can almost see the sex.... Also he/it has a relatively straight back- usually typical of a bull. The one in the background has a more dipped back- often sign of a cow- so that's most likely 'Narayani.'

Pertinax,

Keep with the times, I say!

The individual in the foreground may be Yodha. He is out and about all day. In the background I am not so sure. It remains speculative. Believe me currently Berlin Zoo has 2 cows, Nepali Narayani (perhaps now in with the bull again after her stillbirth) and Tierpark cow Jhansi (for breeding again to Yodha, as her mate at Tierpark is overtly aggressive towards her).

Jelle

Pedro · 12-02-2008, 08:01 PM

Here's a picture of Yohda taken in 2007.
He's easily recognizable with his very large head and almost no horn.

Pertinax · 12-02-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jelle

Pertinax,

Keep with the times, I say!

Okay, okay.

All I'm saying is it looks like a cow in the background- could be either one...

Have you heard Yodha is exceptionally large or is it just a false claim?

Pertinax · 12-02-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jelle

Believe me currently Berlin Zoo has 2 cows, Nepali Narayani (perhaps now in with the bull again after her stillbirth) and Tierpark cow Jhansi (for breeding again to Yodha, as her mate at Tierpark is overtly aggressive towards her).

Yes, I've been told about this...

Jhansi came from SanDiego WAP(?) already pregnant and produced a female calf at the Tierpark- 'Betty'. I know that 'Belur' is aggressive to 'Jhansi' so she is sent across to 'Yodha' for breeding.

What happens about breeding for Jhansi's daughter 'Betty' ?

Jurek7 · 12-02-2008, 11:46 PM

What is situation now in Basel? Do they breed them again? What is relationship between four(?) females there?

Yassa · 13-02-2008, 03:23 AM

I`ve been to the Tierpark Berlin recently and I can confirm that only Betty and her female calf Saathi are there, and Belur of course, I have already suspected that Jhansi might be back in the Zoo for breding with Yohda.

Yassa · 13-02-2008, 03:25 AM

Basle: no adult male there yet so no possibility to breed. Of the 3 females (mother and adult daugther and the half-adult daugther of one of them), the youngest one will leave soon to Chester. The 2 adult females and their calves were all together in one enclosure when I was in Basle 2 years ago and coming along with each other fantastically, I certainly hope this hasn`t changed!

Jurek7 · 13-02-2008, 05:59 AM

Thanks, last year I saw four indian rhinos peacefully in one paddock in Basel. I hope they finish building work soon. This is supposed to be mixed exhibit rhinos-muntjac-otters. Something interesting!

Writhedhornbill · 13-02-2008, 06:10 AM

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Thanks, last year I saw four indian rhinos peacefully in one paddock in Basel.

Jurek that would probably be the four that I saw in 2005. There was a pair of females and their young. One of the young is male and has since moved to Edinburgh. The other is female and Will be going to chester in the near future..

jelle · 13-02-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pertinax

What happens about breeding for Jhansi's daughter 'Betty' ?

Betty is breeding with Belur. If I am correct a calf is expected there later this year.

Jhansi is definitely on "leave" at Berlin Zoo. I can vouch for that from October onwards (keeper talk for a while on Berlin Zoo's rhino stock)!

*MARK* · 13-02-2008, 08:14 AM

Jelle, Can you see in the future European zoos importing new bloodlines from Indian zoos like the San Deigo zoo has done, I think they swapped three females for three males, maybe something like that would give the European zoos some help in their breeding program for this species?, what are your thoughts Jelle.

*MARK* · 13-02-2008, 08:18 AM

[quote=Pedro;37709]Here's a picture of Yohda taken in 2007.
He's easily recognizable with his very large head and almost no horn.

Nice picture Pedro, hes a great looking animal

Jurek7 · 13-02-2008, 09:09 AM

And do you know what are plans for Warsaw?

Marc · 13-02-2008, 08:13 PM

There are also Indian Rhinos in Planckendael, Belgium. I think they have 3 of them. I don't know it exactly.

12-02-2008, 08:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
Pedro Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 121	Here's a picture of Yohda taken in 2007. He's easily recognizable with his very large head and almost no horn. __________________ Mister GROOV' www.photozoo.org www.zoosrunners.info

13-02-2008, 08:13 PM	#30 (permalink)
Marc Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gent, Belgium Posts: 285	There are also Indian Rhinos in Planckendael, Belgium. I think they have 3 of them. I don't know it exactly. __________________ www.zooantwerpen.be & www.planckendael.be www.zoocrew.eu

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12-02-2008, 11:46 PM	#21 (permalink)
Jurek7 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 462	What is situation now in Basel? Do they breed them again? What is relationship between four(?) females there?

13-02-2008, 03:23 AM	#22 (permalink)
Yassa Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 394	I`ve been to the Tierpark Berlin recently and I can confirm that only Betty and her female calf Saathi are there, and Belur of course, I have already suspected that Jhansi might be back in the Zoo for breding with Yohda.

13-02-2008, 03:25 AM	#23 (permalink)
Yassa Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 394	Basle: no adult male there yet so no possibility to breed. Of the 3 females (mother and adult daugther and the half-adult daugther of one of them), the youngest one will leave soon to Chester. The 2 adult females and their calves were all together in one enclosure when I was in Basle 2 years ago and coming along with each other fantastically, I certainly hope this hasn`t changed!

13-02-2008, 05:59 AM	#24 (permalink)
Jurek7 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 462	Thanks, last year I saw four indian rhinos peacefully in one paddock in Basel. I hope they finish building work soon. This is supposed to be mixed exhibit rhinos-muntjac-otters. Something interesting!

13-02-2008, 08:14 AM	#27 (permalink)
MARK Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 2,407	Jelle, Can you see in the future European zoos importing new bloodlines from Indian zoos like the San Deigo zoo has done, I think they swapped three females for three males, maybe something like that would give the European zoos some help in their breeding program for this species?, what are your thoughts Jelle.

13-02-2008, 08:18 AM	#28 (permalink)
MARK Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 2,407	[quote=Pedro;37709]Here's a picture of Yohda taken in 2007. He's easily recognizable with his very large head and almost no horn. Nice picture Pedro, hes a great looking animal

13-02-2008, 09:09 AM	#29 (permalink)
Jurek7 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 462	And do you know what are plans for Warsaw?