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Old 20-06-2008

my mistake, we can still hope for 8 though.
7 successful births would be tremendous achievement
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what is the sex ratio in Okapi like - is a male or female birth seen as more valuable?

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We lack females in the European breeding programme. Currently Copenhagen Zoo, Leipzig Zoo and Zoo Parc de Beauval keep only males.
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Currently there are 26.23 in Europe, 33.45 in US, and 3.6 in Japan (not counting the most recent births)
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There are also some in Berlin Zoo, though I don't know how many
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Currently there are 26.23 in Europe,
No, this is an old data list, i suppose you have this from ISIS.
Currently the numbers are : 28.26 (in 17 european Zoo's)

And Toddy is right,
Berlin Zoo have 3.2 ; Sandoa, Stomp, Bosi and the lady's Jemima and Batouri.
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Back to old thread. ARKive - A unique collection of thousands of videos, images and fact-files illustrating the world's species. has several freely downloadable clips of okapi in natural habitat. And lots of other rare animals.
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No, this is an old data list, i suppose you have this from ISIS.
Currently the numbers are : 28.26 (in 17 european Zoo's)
Thanks black-star. I knew the figures were only rough as ISIS is not up to date and there have been births/deaths recently. Also I forgot about Berlin. The sexes look pretty balanced in Europe so is what Toddy says about female shortage true?
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The european okapi population is hardly growing and not doing that well at all, there are still many deaths of young animals. To archieve the desired opulation growth, births of females are more important then males because one male can serve as breeding male for more then one female... at the moment, some zoos have just males and are waiting for females, Leipzig and Beauval for example. Other zoos have just one female and could take more (Cologne).
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Copenhagen Zoo has also been waiting for a new female for a long time. At first we wanted an experienced breeding male, since female didn't let the young male mate with her. But since we coulden't get one, we decided to send our 11 year old female to Rotterdam, so that her genes would not go wasted.

At the moment our okapi enclosure serves as a holding facility for surplus young males that can be used in the breeding programme in the future.
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Copenhagen Zoo has also been waiting for a new female for a long time. At first we wanted an experienced breeding male, since female didn't let the young male mate with her. But since we coulden't get one, we decided to send our 11 year old female to Rotterdam, so that her genes would not go wasted.
That is not entirely correct.

Banguru specially came in 1996 for Camilla, Nero was also present.
She has rejected both men.
Then came the man Kamba, this marriage was also unsuccessful.

So, Camilla rejected 3 men.

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Camilla; born in 1994.

Nero; born in 1986, sinds 1987 in Copehagen, died there in 2002.
Banguru; born in 1994, sinds 1996 in Copenhagen, died there in 2006.
Kamba; born in 1999, sinds 2003 in Copenhagen, still there.
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That is not entirely correct.

Banguru specially came in 1996 for Camilla, Nero was also present.
She has rejected both men.
Then came the man Kamba, this marriage was also unsuccessful.

So, Camilla rejected 3 men.

for the record;
Camilla; born in 1994.

Nero; born in 1986, sinds 1987 in Copehagen, died there in 2002.
Banguru; born in 1994, sinds 1996 in Copenhagen, died there in 2006.
Kamba; born in 1999, sinds 2003 in Copenhagen, still there.
Hi black star,
(our resident ueber okapi buff, just kidding (lol)!)

Any developments regarding Camilla's progress at our local Blijdorp Zoo and how well she is accepting the resident breeding male? Breeding hopes ..... outlook???
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Any developments regarding Camilla's progress at our local Blijdorp Zoo and how well she is accepting the resident breeding male? Breeding hopes ..... outlook???
Don't ask .

There is still no marriage between the two, but she is tolerate him in her enclosure.
This is what i see, not the keeper, next time i will ask them if i see one.
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That is not entirely correct.

Banguru specially came in 1996 for Camilla, Nero was also present.
She has rejected both men.
Then came the man Kamba, this marriage was also unsuccessful.

So, Camilla rejected 3 men.

for the record;
Camilla; born in 1994.

Nero; born in 1986, sinds 1987 in Copehagen, died there in 2002.
Banguru; born in 1994, sinds 1996 in Copenhagen, died there in 2006.
Kamba; born in 1999, sinds 2003 in Copenhagen, still there.
Thanks for that info black-star

The theory here at Copenhagen was that she would need a male much more experienced in breeding to "set her straight". That's why we decided to send her to Blijdorp, where you guys have the best

Neither Banguru nor Kamba could have had any breeding experience when they came to Copenhagen, since they are too young. I'm not sure about Nero though...

For the moment, Kamba lives with another young male from Marwell, and there was talk of getting another young male.
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Old 25-06-2008

Camilla accepts Tom and they have mated (last time a year ago) now they are just friends. Don't know if she is pregnant, doesn't look like it.
She did fell in love with our younger male Dayo,but he was sent away to Beauval. Are you one of the old keepers of Camilla Toddy?
 


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